Track play order

[rhigh]

I have a 64GB USB thumb drive with about 1500 albums and something like 13000 tracks

 

- Does any one know how to pick an album at some location on the drive and expect that it will continue playing the subsequent albums following that? If I select a specific album, it only plays the tracks in that album (repeating).

- Does any one know how to get this thing to play tracks in the order in which they're layed out on the album if you select all albums? It seems to want to play tracks in only alphabetical order -- which might be fine for some albums, but is annoying when playing Fidler on the Roof or any other show sound tracks whose story depends on the tracks being played in a particular order.

[Muzicman61]

I have a 64GB USB thumb drive with about 1500 albums and something like 13000 tracks

 

- Does any one know how to pick an album at some location on the drive and expect that it will continue playing the subsequent albums following that? If I select a specific album, it only plays the tracks in that album (repeating).

- Does any one know how to get this thing to play tracks in the order in which they're layed out on the album if you select all albums? It seems to want to play tracks in only alphabetical order -- which might be fine for some albums, but is annoying when playing Fidler on the Roof or any other show sound tracks whose story depends on the tracks being played in a particular order.

 

If the album is properly tagged with Track Number it should play in track order. Make sure you don't have Shuffle turned on.

[rhigh]

If the album is properly tagged with Track Number it should play in track order. Make sure you don't have Shuffle turned on.

 

I presume the track information is correct -- the MP3s were produced from iTunes. Do you know how I can confirm that they are tagged with track information correctly? I've attached a screen shot of the file metadata for one of the albums. Does this look like the track information is tagged correctly? (I presume the "#" attribute is the track information. Notice also that the track number is prefixed in the file name as well (although apparently that is not used by Sync to sort-order what it plays.

 

<-- In Vista Explorer

<-- In iTunes

 

And no, Shuffle is not turned on.

Edited November 23, 2009 by rhigh

[Muzicman61]

I presume the track information is correct -- the MP3s were produced from iTunes. Do you know how I can confirm that they are tagged with track information correctly? I've attached a screen shot of the file metadata for one of the albums. Does this look like the track information is tagged correctly? (I presume the "#" attribute is the track information. Notice also that the track number is prefixed in the file name as well (although apparently that is not used by Sync to sort-order what it plays.

 

<-- In Vista Explorer

<-- In iTunes

 

And no, Shuffle is not turned on.

 

Well, the tags look good. Have you ran the songs through "Sync My iTunes" software? I wonder what would happen if you renamed the file and removed the track number from the file name. I also wonder if you have conflicting track info between ID3v1 and ID3v2 info. I think MP3 Tag Studio can analyze both versions and show you if there is any difference.

[Detroit2010]

Yea im having the same problem with the whole alphabetical thing....

 

One thing to mention however is that it will do that when u first select all albums for a specific artist. But the funny thing is when i turn off my car and turn it back on, it plays it according to track number, but it remains in whatever album its playing in..it wont jump to the next album like its supposed to...WEIRD

[Muzicman61]

Yea im having the same problem with the whole alphabetical thing....

 

One thing to mention however is that it will do that when u first select all albums for a specific artist. But the funny thing is when i turn off my car and turn it back on, it plays it according to track number, but it remains in whatever album its playing in..it wont jump to the next album like its supposed to...WEIRD

 

 

If you say "Play Artist XXXX" it will play all songs by that artist from all albums but in Alphabetical order.

 

If you say "Play Album YYYY" it will play the album in track order but won't play any other albums until you tell it to.It wil not jump to another album by that same artist.

[Hanol]

This is a common problem with all computer media players. They usually play tracks in alphabetical order by default. That's what play lists are for. But you have to manage them yourself. Then there are many other settings in SYNC. I didn't try them all yet.

Edited November 30, 2009 by Hanol

[rhigh]

This is a common problem with all computer media players. They usually play tracks in alphabetical order by default. That's what play lists are for. But you have to manage them yourself. Then there are many other settings in SYNC. I didn't try them all yet.

 

I'm not aware of any other player doing this. iTunes certainly doesn't. In any case, it makes very little sense and really isn't a hard software problem to program to play in track order, and/or to continue playing the next album in sequence after completing the first -- all of the information is there.

[Hanol]

I'm not aware of any other player doing this. iTunes certainly doesn't. In any case, it makes very little sense and really isn't a hard software problem to program to play in track order, and/or to continue playing the next album in sequence after completing the first -- all of the information is there.

It's a little more complex than that. Soundtracks are just files. Information about the track, album, artist, etc. MAY BE embedded into files. But not always. All depends upon who and how ripped them. Otherwise they are just files in the directories on the disk and players play them in alphabetical order. In this case it matters how you name them. For example you can name files just by the name of the song. Or you can put up front album name and track number. For example, if you name files "Here Comes the sun" and "Get Together", "Get Together" will play first. However if you name them "01-Here Comes the Sun" and "02-Get Together", "Here Comes the Sun" will play first. To avoid this confusion there are files called play lists that tell player the order of tracks. Most CD ripping programs create play lists, but not always.

[Daveeda1]

Ok - I fugured out the prorblem on my end. If you are using iTunes and an iPod you don't need to place a 01- or a 02- and so on in front of the track number. When you load a song into iTunes or from iTunes the track list is recorded automatically. The problem is that even if "Shuffle" function is OFF on your iPod there is another Shuffle function on the SYNC. You ahve to make sure both are off. Once you do this it will automatically defult to playing the album in order.

Edited December 25, 2009 by Daveeda1

[cdub]

I am having the same issue, which is incredibly frustrating. Anyone else? Choose artist, album, song, whatever - everything comes through listed alphabetically.

 

Songs are all on my iPod, via iTunes, and they all have track numbers associated with them. I'm very careful about that. I checked the "shuffle" feature as was mentioned above and nothing is set to shuffle. Therefore nothing has defaulted to track number order. Anyone have any other suggestions, before I just go line-in AUX and forget the whole Sync thing altogether?

 

Can't there just be a darn firmware update that can solve this issue? Puleeeze Microsoft and Ford?

[Muzicman61]

Verify that your mp3 files are tagged with ID3 version 2.3 or 2.4 information. Not version 1.3

[cadhead]

Verify that your mp3 files are tagged with ID3 version 2.3 or 2.4 information. Not version 1.3

 

Don't they test this garbage!!

[fastbullstang]

(3) Sync equipped vehicles all played my tracks correctly from either a music player or USB drive (depending on the vehicle). I usually sort through artist, then album, then the tracks. No matter what track you start from it will proceed in numerical order as laid out on the album. I just took delivery of a 2011 Edge and it will play only alphabetically. VERY frustrating. Anyone figured this out??

[theDuff]

(3) Sync equipped vehicles all played my tracks correctly from either a music player or USB drive (depending on the vehicle). I usually sort through artist, then album, then the tracks. No matter what track you start from it will proceed in numerical order as laid out on the album. I just took delivery of a 2011 Edge and it will play only alphabetically. VERY frustrating. Anyone figured this out??

Is your Edge equipped with myford touch? I was just playing with one and it plays everything alphabetically. My 2010 Fusion does not. Same flash drive. Methinks the MyFord equipped vehicles are already in need of a firmware update.

[Francois.nc]

Is your Edge equipped with myford touch? I was just playing with one and it plays everything alphabetically. My 2010 Fusion does not. Same flash drive. Methinks the MyFord equipped vehicles are already in need of a firmware update.

 

I have an 2011 Edge with MyFordTouch as well, and everything is alphabetical off of a USB Thumb Drive or USB Hard Drive, but off of an actual iPhone it seems to work, the Icon in the Console Side Display shows an iPod icon instead of the usually USB, so it must be treating it differently letting the iPhone handle to order so to speak.

 

I am assuming you are saying you took your media from a Fusion that works and stuck it in an Edge and it didn't thus your analysis of the needed update.

 

That sucks...

[kwurman]

I have an 2011 Edge with MyFordTouch as well, and everything is alphabetical off of a USB Thumb Drive or USB Hard Drive, but off of an actual iPhone it seems to work, the Icon in the Console Side Display shows an iPod icon instead of the usually USB, so it must be treating it differently letting the iPhone handle to order so to speak.

 

I am assuming you are saying you took your media from a Fusion that works and stuck it in an Edge and it didn't thus your analysis of the needed update.

 

That sucks...

[kwurman]

I use tagging software. I am also having the same problem with the songs playing alphabetically.

Possible solution to the problem would seem to be that we have to re-tag the songs to include the track number in the SONG NAME field. Right now I have the track numbers in the FILE NAME, but not in the SONG NAME. Thus, if the car software is alphabetizing by song name, it would sort by number - if you know what I mean. I will try this and report back.

There should have been a setting in the car software to change the order it plays albums...

[kwurman]

Verify that your mp3 files are tagged with ID3 version 2.3 or 2.4 information. Not version 1.3

 

 

Maybe this is my problem?? I use MP3Tag software the ID3 version is 3.4 how do i go back to 2.3 or 2.4?? Isnt this a very old version?

Maybe I should remove the track number from the file name and put the track number in the Title field?

[kwurman]

If you say "Play Artist XXXX" it will play all songs by that artist from all albums but in Alphabetical order.

 

If you say "Play Album YYYY" it will play the album in track order but won't play any other albums until you tell it to.It wil not jump to another album by that same artist.

 

 

I have tagged all my files using MP3Tag software.. but when I say "Play Album YYY" it still plays the songs in alphabetical order. I have the tracks numbered correctly and I even changed the file names to "01 Song Title" etc. but this did not work... Do you have to change the titles to include the track numbers??

[kwurman]

It's a little more complex than that. Soundtracks are just files. Information about the track, album, artist, etc. MAY BE embedded into files. But not always. All depends upon who and how ripped them. Otherwise they are just files in the directories on the disk and players play them in alphabetical order. In this case it matters how you name them. For example you can name files just by the name of the song. Or you can put up front album name and track number. For example, if you name files "Here Comes the sun" and "Get Together", "Get Together" will play first. However if you name them "01-Here Comes the Sun" and "02-Get Together", "Here Comes the Sun" will play first. To avoid this confusion there are files called play lists that tell player the order of tracks. Most CD ripping programs create play lists, but not always.

 

 

I think you are confusing file names with "title tags"

Naming the files with the numbers first does not seem to work with sync... it still plays the files in alphabetical order based on the song TITLE, not the file name...

[kwurman]

I have tagged all my files using MP3Tag software.. but when I say "Play Album YYY" it still plays the songs in alphabetical order. I have the tracks numbered correctly and I even changed the file names to "01 Song Title" etc. but this did not work... Do you have to change the titles to include the track numbers??

 

 

SOLUTION TO PROBLEM - PLAYING TRACKS IN CORRECT ORDER

 

Using Tagging software, change the SONG TITLE field (NOT "FILE NAME") to track# - Song Name

Even though Sync will alphabetize the songs by TITLE field, they will play in the correct order - Numbers are "alphabetized" before letters

 

Try it, it works

 

Ken

[Muzicman61]

You're better off changing the file name and leave the Title field alone. Most good tagging software can mass rename the files based on the ID3 tag info or meta data. My files are all named ARTST - ALBUM - TR# - SONG TITLE.mp3 (Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms - 01 - Money For Nothing)..

[kwurman]

You're better off changing the file name and leave the Title field alone. Most good tagging software can mass rename the files based on the ID3 tag info or meta data. My files are all named ARTST - ALBUM - TR# - SONG TITLE.mp3 (Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms - 01 - Money For Nothing)..

 

The file name has nothing to do with the issue at hand... Sync is sorting the songs by TITLE, alphabetically (ignoring the file name, the track field, etc).. I too had named my files with the track number first - that simply will not work..

[5picker]

For those wo may miss this same discussion in the General Discussion heading please go here

SYNC will play your songs in order if you use three digits for your track # instead of one or two.

EXAMPLE: Use 001 not 1 or 01 -or- 022 not 22.

No need to have any numbers in your song titles or file names.

Edited December 2, 2010 by 5picker