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7/6/20 - New SYNC 3 NAV maps update available.

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Hi gang. There is a new SYNC 3 Navigation maps update available. To see if it is available for your Lincoln, go here and enter the required vehicle information: https://syncnavigation.com/lincoln/home

 

For your Ford, go here and do the same: https://syncnavigation.com/ford/home

 

Good luck. 

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On 7/6/2020 at 4:48 PM, bbf2530 said:

Hi gang. There is a new SYNC 3 Navigation maps update available. To see if it is available for your Lincoln, go here and enter the required vehicle information: https://syncnavigation.com/lincoln/home

 

For your Ford, go here and do the same: https://syncnavigation.com/ford/home

 

Good luck. 

 

What year are the maps?  The new maps were just out last fall. it  would be very unusual for there to be another set of maps out within under a year...

REF: https://fordsyncforum.com/index.php?/topic/7041-map-updates-now-available-for-sync3/&do=findComment&comment=22336

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3 hours ago, punch-card said:

 

What year are the maps?  The new maps were just out last fall. it  would be very unusual for there to be another set of maps out within under a year...

REF: https://fordsyncforum.com/index.php?/topic/7041-map-updates-now-available-for-sync3/&do=findComment&comment=22336

 

Hi punch-card. Last years update was released late August-early September. Looks like the NAV maps supplier got this years update out a month or two sooner.

 

As Multitask mentioned, the newly released version is NA 1-19. So it will include all updates from 1st quarter 2018 to 1st quarter 2019.

 

Good luck.

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Hi gang. On a related note, the SYNC 3 update pages on the Ford and Lincoln Owner websites have been updated. After inputting your VIN, it now informs as to whether we are up to date, have any available updates, the current SYNC version number installed in our vehicle etc.

 

It now also has links to other pages that clearly detail the instructions for how to update SYNC 3 via USB, WiFi etc. Far more informative and user friendly than before.

 

Good luck.

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Hi again gang. I successfully updated my SYNC 3 Navigation system maps on a long drive yesterday. The latest version is NA 1 19

However, I would give the same warnings I have given to others on past updates: You may/will get a very quick notification (within minutes of beginning the update), essentially stating that the "Update is complete, remove the USB, restart the car..." etc.

However...Do not remove the USB and do no restart the car, etc! The update is not complete. If you leave the USB in and wait about 5 minutes, your SYNC system will reboot and the "System Update" will resume and continue. This may even happen a second time.

As the NAV maps website states, the update will take ~1 hour. Therefore, I recommend waiting at least 10 minutes after any "Update is complete" notifications before removing the USB and restarting your car, to ensure it is not another false notification.

In this way, you can be sure the SYNC system is not going to go through another reboot and resume the update. Just be patient and assume it will take approximately a full hour.

Hope these instructions are clear and understandable. Good luck.

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what are the instructions to complete this update?

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the instructions are to leave the USB stick in for about 1 hour... or till it says it's done.

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6 hours ago, bnewt said:

what are the instructions to complete this update?

 

Hi bnewt. Did you input your information on the SYNC3 NAV maps update website (link in the first post of this thread)? Do you have a maps update available?

 

Not sure exactly what instructions you are looking for. The detailed instructions are available for download when you download an available update.

 

Get back to us with more information.

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that was my question, when I download the update, I will get instructions for the update

 

hate to pay that type of fee & then screw up the install

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1 hour ago, bnewt said:

that was my question, when I download the update, I will get instructions for the update

 

hate to pay that type of fee & then screw up the install

 

Hi bnewt. Yes, if you have an available SYNC3 NAV maps download, you will be given links for:

- How to download the update from the website.

- How to install the update onto the USB drive you are using.

- How to upload the update into your vehicle's SYNC system using one of the USB ports.

 

Just read and follow the instructions closely and take your time. Especially for the upload of the update in your vehicle. Assume it will take an hour and ignore the possible false early "Update Complete" notifications (as discussed earlier in this thread). 

 

Feel free to ask any questions you and have and good luck.

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The 3.4 update is free.... the Maps to 1-19 may not be  free.... depending or your year and model of Ford or Lincoln.  And yes they are separate installs

 

either way, wait till it say remove the USB device... either can take 30 minutes to 1 hour 30 minutes to complete

The engine should be on during it, so that the battery is kept charged.... if you are in a garage, take the vehicle outside because of possible fumes from the vehicle. 

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3 minutes ago, Multitask said:

The 3.4 update is free.... the Maps to 1-19 may not be  free.... depending or your year and model of Ford or Lincoln.  And yes they are separate installs

 

either way, wait till it say remove the USB device... either can take 30 minutes to 1 hour 30 minutes to complete

The engine should be on during it, so that the battery is kept charged.... if you are in a garage, take the vehicle outside because of possible fumes from the vehicle. 

 

Hi Multitask. Just to avoid confusion for others, wanted to make one small addition to what you stated above: It is not that the engine "should" be running. The engine must be running the entire time. If it is not, or if the engine is turned off during the install, then the install will fail and will need to be started over from the beginning.

 

That is probably what you meant, but just want to make it completely clear for others.

 

Good luck.

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Well, yes, if it's not running then the car is not running and the install will fail... or not even start to install

 

Sometimes the instructions will say to just leave it at the on position, but then the battery would run down (or could)

do it during the day so that you don't turn on your lights (so it does not drain your battery)

 

You most of the time assume people are idiots.  😎

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😎😎

11 hours ago, Multitask said:

Well, yes, if it's not running then the car is not running and the install will fail... or not even start to install

 

Sometimes the instructions will say to just leave it at the on position, but then the battery would run down (or could)

do it during the day so that you don't turn on your lights (so it does not drain your battery)

 

You always assume people are idiots.  😎

 

Hi Multitask. Well, several things. First, I do not assume people are idiots, I've just been around the forums helping other members, and have seen the innocent mistakes people make. So I try to help them avoid those mistakes. And I try to do it without too many wisecracks. 😎

 

Second, since we are giving fun critiques...you have a habit of being imprecise with what you write, then getting snippy and waffling a bit when it is politely but necessarily corrected. Kind of like you did above. 😎

 

Third, the instructions for SYNC3 and NAV maps updates always say to have the engine running for the entire install, not "Sometimes the instructions will say to just leave it at the on position". Just like "should be running" and "must be running" are two completely different things. So being more precise, your advice that SYNC3 and NAV map updates can be done without the engine running was incorrect, and will waste other peoples time with failed update attempts. 😎

 

Fourth, my previous reply was correct, and very polite. I even tried to be extra polite and give you the out by saying, "That is probably what you meant...", even though I did not think that was what you meant. 😎

 

Fifth, again, the engine  must be running for the entire install. 😎

 

I await your "Whatever". 😎

And remember what you have told others, if you insert this "😎", it's just a dry sense of humor and everything is okay. 😎

 

Good luck. 😎 

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Edited Fact #1 for accuracy, after constructive criticism. ;-)

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Hmm...

yours

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I've been on the forums much longer than that.... maybe not this one or some or all the ones you have been on , again you assume....

 

But anyways... semantics

 

 

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5 hours ago, Multitask said:

Hmm...

yours

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I've been on the forums much longer than that.... maybe not this one or some or all the ones you have been on , again you assume....

 

But anyways... semantics

 

 

 

Hi Multitask. 🤣  It is good to see we agree on the other 4 points. And as an added bonus, you did some basic research and were more precise this time. Progress! 😎

 

And since you were correct in your constructive criticism about you being a member on this particular forum longer, I will go back and edit/correct fact #1 to ensure accuracy.  🤗

 

And remember...keep on smiling! 😎

 

Good luck. 😎

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Oh, afraid to admit your were wrong by leaving it? Hmmm...

 

I didn't agree... thus my 'But anyways... semantics' comment.... but then you always look for the PC way of doing things... Im just honest.

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1 hour ago, Multitask said:

Oh, afraid to admit your were wrong by leaving it? Hmmm...

 

I didn't agree... thus my 'But anyways... semantics' comment.... but then you always look for the PC way of doing things... Im just honest.

 

 

Hi Multitask. 🤣  Hmmm...Seems reading is not fundamental for everyone. This entire discussion began because you told people incorrect information about how to install SYNC3 related updates, by telling them it can be done without the engine running the entire time. And after having that information very politely corrected, decided to "double down" on that incorrect information instead of simply moving on. Repeatedly. Would you now like to admit you were wrong before it causes others problems? It is always easy for someone to create a mess with incorrect information. But it is harder for others to clean it up. How about you be "honest", admit you were wrong, stop hiding behind "😎",  and clean up your mess?

 

Then to top it off, you decided to deflect attention by making a personal attack on me, stating that I "always assume people are idiots". It is all in the posts above for others to read. Not sure about you, but I am here solely to help people.

 

So, this is what I clearly stated in my last post... I'll underline it this time, for clarity: "And since you were correct in your constructive criticism about you being a member on this particular forum longer, I will go back and edit/correct fact #1 to ensure accuracy." Clear and to the point.

 

A clear admittance of an error be me. And a statement that I would edit it for clarity. So no fear, no hiding. That would be as opposed to you still insisting the car does not have to be running for SYNC3 system and NAV Maps updates. Where is your correction  (or admitting you were "wrong"), for telling people something that will lead to failed installations and wasted time for others?

 

I admit when I make an error. You refuse to admit yours. So much for your theory.

 

Also, you seem to be losing the dry and sarcastic sense of humor you are so proud. Or do you only like to dish it out to others, like when you chased away a new member on one of the other forums. A member looking for help, who asked a simple question. You remember, don't you? The new member who, if I recall correctly, called you an "ass" before leaving. I even tried to defend your "dry, sarcastic sense of humor" on that other forum. I won't bother anymore.

 

"Honest" and wrong are two different things. You were wrong. Learn to "know what you don't know" and simply move on. Oh...and "PC"?  🤣

 

 

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Hmm... So where did I clearly say to 'not run the engine' ?  "by telling them it can be done without the engine running the entire time"  never said that.

I see 'The engine should be on during it, so that the battery is kept charged" is what I posted.  I even specified the why. (here in italics)

Here is dictionary.com 's information on 'should'

 

simple past tense of shall.
(used to express condition):Were he to arrive, I should be pleased.
must; ought (used to indicate duty, propriety, or expediency):You should not do that.
would (used to make a statement less direct or blunt):I should think you would apologize.
 
You are not being very 'helpful' when all you do is make fun of things....
 
And yes, my statement to that person was not taken very well, and his comment was not needed either.... and I did explain that my humor is not for everyone... but I also am just a user here, and not a moderator, so I do not have to be as 'PC' as you.
And I looked... he did come back after, just didn't post.  
 

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2 hours ago, Multitask said:

Hmm... So where did I clearly say to 'not run the engine' ?  "by telling them it can be done without the engine running the entire time"  never said that.

I see 'The engine should be on during it, so that the battery is kept charged" is what I posted.  I even specified the why. (here in italics)

Here is dictionary.com 's information on 'should'

 

simple past tense of shall.
(used to express condition):Were he to arrive, I should be pleased.
must; ought (used to indicate duty, propriety, or expediency):You should not do that.
would (used to make a statement less direct or blunt):I should think you would apologize.
 
You are not being very 'helpful' when all you do is make fun of things....
 
And yes, my statement to that person was not taken very well, and his comment was not needed either.... and I did explain that my humor is not for everyone... but I also am just a user here, and not a moderator, so I do not have to be as 'PC' as you.
And I looked... he did come back after, just didn't post.  
 

 

Hi Multitask. While you have the dictionary out, look up the words "must" and "should". Because the engine must be running. Not "should" be running. Whether you like it or not, "should be running" infers that it is a choice. It is not. The engine "must 'be running during the entire install. Semantics sometimes matter.

 

Therefore, no matter how you try to "semantically" weasel out of this one, the installation can not be accomplished with the ignition simply turned on. You were/are wrong, realistically and semantically. And once again, you fail to admit you were mistaken and gave bad advice , which will cause problems for others. Lincoln/Ford state the engine must be running during the entire installIt is not  to keep the battery charged. The installation will fail if the engine is not on to begin, or turned off at any time before completion.

 

"And I looked...he did come back after that, just didn't post"? Really, that is your defense? You insulted someone for absolutely no reason, he clearly states he would no longer participate in the forum because of your insults, and he now no longer posts or participates in the forum. Because of you. And that is your defense?

 

So you give incorrect advice, insult others to the point they no longer participate in a forum, and then are clueless enough to try and accuse me of making fun of things and not being helpful? By the way, Mr. Semantics..."all you do is make fun of things" is not "PC". Also, if someone "...always assumes other people are idiots.", they are not "PC".  You do not even know what "PC" means. Make up your mind as to which incorrect story you want to stick to. 🤣

 

You state: "...and I did explain that my humor is not for everyone... but I also am just a user here, and not a moderator, so I do not have to be as 'PC' as you. People like you, who feel they can be sarcastic comedians and Internet bullies simply because they are anonymous, are a dime a dozen.

 

However...nice attempt at deflection. 

 

I started this thread to help others. You posted incorrect information and were politely corrected. If you want to keep this up, start your own thread, where you can post incorrect information and insult me to your little hearts desire.

 

And "learn to know what you don't know".

 

PS - By the way, just noticed you went back and changed your previous, needlessly insulting post (Friday 10:21PM) from "You always assume people are idiots." to "You most of the time assume people are idiots.

That would be your needlessly insulting post which started all of this. And you changed it without announcing that you did (as opposed to how I clearly announced my edit). So using your inimitably flawed logic, perhaps we should assume you "must be afraid" and are trying to "hide" something.

Important to point out that sneaky change, since it was your incorrect information combined with that unnecessary insult which started this.

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Therefore, no matter how you try to "semantically" weasel out of this one, the installation can not be accomplished with the ignition simply turned on.

I never said that.

 

So if Fords information is so perfect, why do those people that follow the Exact Rules fail?

 

I did the edit to see if you would try to copy paste and use it to 'belittle' me.

 

Wait for it... here it comes....  WHATEVER!!!

As far as the other user coming back, not an excuse, just pointing out that they did come back.

 

PS - I very rarely see anyone come back and say that your advice was very useful... I don't normally look for it, so I could have missed it.

PPS - I was just following your example

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1 hour ago, Multitask said:

Therefore, no matter how you try to "semantically" weasel out of this one, the installation can not be accomplished with the ignition simply turned on.

I never said that.

 

So if Fords information is so perfect, why do those people that follow the Exact Rules fail?

 

I did the edit to see if you would try to copy paste and use it to 'belittle' me.

 

Wait for it... here it comes....  WHATEVER!!!

As far as the other user coming back, not an excuse, just pointing out that they did come back.

 

PS - I very rarely see anyone come back and say that your advice was very useful... I don't normally look for it, so I could have missed it.

PPS - I was just following your example

 

 

Hi Multitask. You dig deeper and deeper as you go along. A quote from your other post, "Sometimes the instructions will say to just leave it at the on position...".  What now...will you hilariously try to parse words and claim that you wrote "it", not "ignition", "engine" or "car"?  🤣

The facts are, that contrary to what you have posted here, at no time do Fords instructions say that the ignition can be left in the "ON" position for SYNC3 or SYNC3 NAV maps updates. That is 100% false. Ford's directions clearly and consistently state that the engine must be running throughout the entirety of SYNC3 and SYNC 3 NAV maps updates.

Not "should" be running. "Must" be running. That is the basis of this entire discussion. So...thank you, for providing the evidence to see you are incorrect and simply will not admit it.

 

Now you attempt to deflect, and argue that since some people have issues when trying to follow Ford's instructions, they should ignore Ford and follow your guaranteed failure idea? Don't listen to Ford, listen to Multitask". Fantastic logic. Follow it yourself in the future and let us know how that works.

 

Then, you now make the excuse (to cover your exposed butt), that you intentionally did something sneaky, editing information being discussed without posting so, in an effort to try and catch someone else pointing out that you did something sneaky... by editing previous posts pertinent to what was being discussed. Fantastic logic again. What an example of twisting yourself into a pretzel.

When you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar as a kid, did you tell your parents you were only "taking" the cookies to keep them safe, so that your siblings didn't  "steal" them? It is safe to say that type of Pretzel logic didn't work with  them either.

 

Finally, you insulted and belittled a new member of a Forum for absolutely no reason. And they called you out on it as the reason they would not participate in that Forum again. And to this date, they have never participated again. And you never apologized. In the same way you began this entire issue by insulting me for no reason. Then you go back and try to alter your insult, and when called out, claim it was part of a brilliant plan. Yes, you are a psychological mastermind.  🤣

 

Jeez...you made a mistake and posted incorrect information. Not the end of the world. But then just move on without resorting to insulting others to falsely defend that mistake. That would have avoided all of this.

 

Again, this thread was begun to help and inform people about SYNC3 updates. Move your argument to your own new thread.

 

 

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On 7/31/2020 at 9:49 PM, Multitask said:

The 3.4 update is free.... the Maps to 1-19 may not be  free.... depending or your year and model of Ford or Lincoln.  And yes they are separate installs

 

either way, wait till it say remove the USB device... either can take 30 minutes to 1 hour 30 minutes to complete

The engine should be on during it, so that the battery is kept charged.... if you are in a garage, take the vehicle outside because of possible fumes from the vehicle. 

 

I was talking mainly about the map update

 

those that have done the update to 3.4, did you have any problems?

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On 8/4/2020 at 4:11 PM, bnewt said:

 

I was talking mainly about the map update

 

those that have done the update to 3.4, did you have any problems?

 

Hi bnewt. What vehicle/model year do you have and what version of SYNC is it equipped with? You can not factory update to SYNC 3.4 from any earlier SYNC versions (3.0, 3.2 etc.).

EDIT - Update...However, it seems you can update from 3.3 to 3.4.

 

If you are asking about the third party 3.4 update instructions which are available online, some owners have performed it. Some have had success. Some have had issues. As far as I have seen, many/most of the owners who claim success will admit that they still lost functionality of one service or another, but downplay it by stating that "I didn't use that anyway". And there have been multiple cases of US/Canadian owners winding up with SYNC systems that speak Swedish, French, German etc. The reason for that is these files are taken from European Union or Russian servers.

 

Finally, keep in mind...If your vehicle is still within the New Car Bumper to Bumper Warranty or a Ford/LincolnProtect Extended Service Plan, installing this non-factory update can/will lead to denied claims on any warranty issues concerning SYNC/ Audio/Climate Control/Electronic and even Electrical issues. Essentially anything connected to the SYNC system in any way, even tangentially.

 

If you care about your Warranty, do not perform the third party updates. At least not until your warranty has expired.

 

Sorry for the long post, but it was not clear if you are asking about a factory upgrade to 3.4 (from the SYNC3 Update website), or a third party/non-factory upgrade. Also, posting your vehicle, model year and current SYNC version will help.

 

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

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